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Foonet dead, finally.

Postby RandomJackass » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:01 am

http://tinyurl.com/2s5pg
http://www.easynetworknyc.com/foonet/

I for one am glad they are down and can only hope it STAYS down. It's amazing that it took this long in some aspects, but not at the same time. It is absolutely NOT a coincidence that packet kiddies prefer them, nor is it that i've back tracked countless #'s of them to foonet. Over a long enough period of time that i don't care to recall.

People in support of them will bitch and moan about how no one has real evidence everything is heresy and this and that and we're all apparently liars. But for those who've been repeatedly abused by foonet's users and lack of ethical admin intervention this appears to be finally it. Rott.

(edited for grammar)
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Postby 0versight » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:55 am

what did happen really? Im in the dark about this, people say that it was used to hack something, but what company or even who?
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Postby Klimpong » Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:18 pm

0versight wrote:what did happen really? Im in the dark about this, people say that it was used to hack something, but what company or even who?
Ppl claim that they failed to deal with abusive customers. As if this didn't happen anywhere else... rackshack (ev1), nocster, ...
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Postby prefect » Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:28 pm

Klimpong wrote:Ppl claim that they failed to deal with abusive customers. As if this didn't happen anywhere else... rackshack (ev1), nocster, ...
Not that I know anything about foonet, but "everyone else did it!" is the stupidest form of excuse ever.

If that's the reason for them getting shutted down I hope it can be a warning to other similar organizations.
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Foonet.

Postby g[ax] » Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:27 pm

It is not that Foonet had anything to do with kids packeting/etc.. from their boxes.. It is the AMOUNT Of kiddies, and the AMOUNT of packeting.

Don't forget that. :)


If you have an ISP where you find 1-3 users who are abusive, it isn't usually much of a problem to deal with. If you have an ISP where the sole purpose of the ISP is to be run by kids for kids, well thats a slight problem. :)
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Postby munky » Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:02 pm

actually, yes, there has

http://www.cithosting.com/news.htm
The FBI executed a search warrant issued by the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio regarding the IRC network that we host. According to the warrant, it appears that the Bureau is investigating whether someone hosted on our network hacked and attacked someone else.

After several hours of attempting to track down, inspect and audit the terabytes of data that we host, the FBI determined that it was more efficient (from their point of view) to remove all of our servers and transport them to the FBI local laboratories for inspection. This was completed at 7:00 pm EST same day.
according to the latest news post, they are back up hosting web hosting only, the irc network is not back up.
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Postby Klimpong » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:46 pm

I wouldn't exactly second the motion that foonet's sole purpose was to provide room for abuse.

And regarding the abuse issue, I just wanted to state that nowadays not even a registrar will suspend a domain even though it's used to spam, nor will any of the larger ISPs really suspend business even though you complain.
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Postby evil » Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:31 pm

A "user" with "admin" status used foonet for the home of a massive drone net. But that's just a guess :twisted:
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Postby cleblanc » Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:56 am

As a few of you might remember, foonet was purchased a few months ago by a person called Jay. According do the FBI, Jay was arrested approximately 3 weeks ago. Though, he is out now. It still makes me wonder what he could have done.
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"Shocking" news

Postby RandomJackass » Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:13 am

*cough*

Your Rights Online: CEO Indicted for DDOSing Competitors
Posted by michael on Friday August 27, @09:30AM
from the one-way-to-get-ahead dept.
ruland writes:

"It turns out there was a reason the hosting company CIT/Foonet was raided in February ( http://yro.slashdot.org/17/04/02/24/101 ... ml?tid=103 ) . SecurityFocus.com ( http://www.securityfocus.com/ ) reports that the CEO of a web-based satellite T.V. retailer ( http://www.orbitsat.com/ ) has been indicted for allegedly paying Foonet's administrator to arrange denial of service attacks ( http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9411 ) against his competitors, causing outages as long as two weeks at a time, and $2 million in losses. Now he's skipped out on $750,000 bail, while the five packet monkeys who worked for him are left facing felony charges of their own."

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/08/27/12 ... =172&tid=1

http://www.easynetworknyc.com/foonet/
http://easynetworknyc.com/id/14/

http://www.carrierhotels.com/news/2004/ ... host.shtml
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Postby Mobber » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:56 am

this seems like a perfect example of $uck the Patritoic Act!!

one false move and we take your entire server and investigate everyone who has ever used it and gather a smuch information on them as we can.

Yay Bush!?
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Postby wundr » Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:45 am

Mobber wrote:this seems like a perfect example of $uck the Patritoic Act!!
I assume you meant to type "the Patriot Act". Also, it could be that I just don't understand the Patriot Act as thoroughly as you (I admit that I don't know the details of it very well), but what does the Patriot Act have to do with confiscations?
one false move and we take your entire server and investigate everyone who has ever used it and gather a smuch information on them as we can.

Yay Bush!?
One false move? The owner of the company was paying a system administrator (and former owner) to use company resources to attack competitors. IANAL, but confiscation seems to be in order.
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Postby Pills » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:37 am

Mobber wrote:this seems like a perfect example of $uck the Patritoic Act!!

one false move and we take your entire server and investigate everyone who has ever used it and gather a smuch information on them as we can.

Yay Bush!?
This has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. It's no different than what would've happened, and did happen, before it went into effect.
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